Since he hasn't put this form to the test against Beerus, fans can only debate if Goku's Ultra Instinct would be enough to take Beerus down, although it's safe to assume that Beerus would have a tougher time defeating Ultra Instinct Goku than he did Super Saiyan God Goku. He acted as a substitute for his father and put Gohan under intensive survival training. Just to make my opinion absolutely clear, Gohan is stronger then Goku at the end of the buu saga.Jpark0015 16:07, August 30, 2011 (UTC) Goku is Stronger than Ultimate Gohan when goku was powering up every one felt it even in the kai's world but when Gohan was powering up it was felt only in the kai's world. As far as individaul characters, Gohan is the strongest at the end. Vote. Mystic Gohan could've destroyed Super Buu, which is waaaaay more powerful than Fat Buu. Yet Mystic Gohan overpowered SS2 Goku when they fought. Gohan does not have a love for fighting like his father. If you enjoyed, then like and Subscribe! Following the death of Goku, Chi Chi was really adamant about training Goten while she left Gohan to focus on his studies. Goku still able to take a several beating while provoking Hirudegarn = Tough ^He was talking about Ultimate Gohan. When the people of a society agree that sacrificing a child is acceptable collateral damage then IMO it has become a society that's not worth saving. Goku is always stronger than Gohan except during the cell games when Gohan becomes the first to become super Saiyan 2. I think Ultimate Gohan is because He had no problem against Super Buu befor he absorbed Gotenks SSJ3. SSJ3 Goku vs Hirudegarn : Hirudegarn is obviously stronger than Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (both of them are at least 3x Goku). In this form, Goku was able to fight on par with Jiren. Gohan does become stronger than Goku, but not necessarily significantly so. Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccolo in anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion, and grew much stronger and closer to his new mentor, ultimately redeeming him and setting him down the path of heroism due to their bond. He was only base against the Yardrat. User Info: DrunkenPilot72. Gohan is not stronger than goku he cant go super saiyan anymore and goku goes ssj3 goku is stronger plus he loses ALOT of his strength during buu saga so goku is stronger gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. In that episode, we saw the true return form for Ultimate Gohan as he challenged his father to a one-on-one fight. The misconception fight between Gohan vs Goku in the Dragon Ball had the fan base hyped after episode 90 of Dragon Ball super. There is also a brief period in the buu saga where Gohan becomes stronger but other than that goku is stronger. The first time was with the Elder Namekian, also known as Guru on Planet Namek, and the second time was with the Elder Supreme Kai back in Dragon Ball Z. And Gohan was even stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. Watch one piece Goku is my favorite DB character / Hit is the best to come from super. Gohan had his power unlock twice. It was a sort of return to the roots of the franchise. Also the fact that Gohan managed to survive an attack from SSJB Kaioken which is strong enough to easily kill Gohan and … And why was kid buu the last buu in the series whe super buu was stronger. Gohan would beat SSj 3 Goku akira toriyama already said gohan is the most powerful non fused character of Buu Arc, and in that thing thats exactly canon the MANGA!!!! after losing to cell Goku even admits that Gohan is stronger than he is. During the Buu arc, Gotenks was definitively stronger, as Goku established he was too scared to fight the base Evil Buu without fusing, even with Vegeta's help, and this same form of Buu was the one that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was shown to be essentially even with. With Goku sacrificing himself to help defeat Raditz, Piccolo is forced to train Gohan so he can become stronger. Gohan after training with piccolo was already much stronger than Kid Goku in dragonball since he fought one on one with Vegeta when Goku before training with King Kai could not fight Raditz, But the Goten would beat all of them since he was able to transform into a super saiyan at age 7 so that round would go to Goten. Goten turned Super Saiyan on a … Ultimate Gohan is way stronger than super saiyan 3 Goku (don't bring Hirudegarn, Goku is my favorite character but this is all dragon punch PIS). I'd say Full power mystic Gohan might be stronger than SSJG Goku and can probably hold his own against SSJB like android 17. Evolve 20 ( talk ) 18:35, July 14, 2013 (UTC) This crap about goku being capable of going super saiyan 2 and defeating cell but just passing the torch to gohan for him to defeat cell just because goku felt like retiring is defniitely wrong. SSB Goku remains stronger than Gohan Gohan surpass and toys with SSB Goku but NOT UI Goku Gohan toys with SSB Goku, and surpasses UI Goku but NOT MUI Goku Gohan defeats MUI Goku Gohan toys with MUI Goku, thinks there is nothing special about it Goku and Gohan become exact equals. But both moves were still a normal Kamehameha. Frieza wouldn't stand a chance against Goku like this. In any … View Results . The form is known as Binary and during this state, her powers can be compared to that of Ultra Instinct Goku, thus making her way stronger than Ultimate Gohan. His battle against the yardrat made pretty clear that base Frieza is stronger than him It's clear you're a s***ty troll. He is way stronger than Goku/Vegeta, not about SSJ2 Gohan. via: dragonball.wikia.com. In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan has become a complete family man, being a devoted father and husband. This was in order to test Gohan’s strength comparative to Goku. A power-up focused on martial arts skills like physical attacks and dodging. Gohan >> SSj3 Gotenks > Super Buu >>>>> SSJ Gotenks <=> FPSSJ3 Goku. REAL Logic he defeated cell when he was a child and goku couldn't as an adult. Post-Dragon Ball Z- Goku achieves the form of super saiyan god, making him way stronger than Gohan, so Goku wins this time. Unless Cell knows something Gohan doesn't about Kamehamehas, considering that Gohan and Cell used the exact same move against each other, Gohan is stronger than Cell by the simple fact that Gohan's Kamehameha is stronger than Cell's. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. I don't think he is even ss2 Goku tier. Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku takes the lead again. So, what happened was the Elder Kai pretty much unlock all of Gohan’s dormant sleeping potential. Ultra Instinct was the big new transformation added to the Tournament of Power arc. DrunkenPilot72 11 years ago #5. iirc, Toriyama himself stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character in the series. Like Gohan, Captain Marvel can also transform when she has absorbed enough energy. The Father-Son Kamehameha is … RELATED: Eight Things They Changed From DBZ To Dragon Ball Super (And Two They Kept The Same) His strength grows exponentially by the end of the training as he is able to shatter large … In this case, I’ll refer to the anime released in the United States. Then there's Vegeta that can only access ss2. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see Captain Marvel fight a Saiyan. Goku is therefore stronger than Gohan and with that evidence, this even implies that he could be as powerful as Vegito. User Info: dragonball0900. Which goku, is it after kid buu fight, or GT, or newly formed ssj3 goku. 10 Stronger: Ultra Instinct Goku. Gohan with aid lost to saganbo while goku is far stronger than saganbo. Can Gohan like in Cell Saga, catch up with DBS Goku or even surpass … 5 Ghost Rider Oko500 14:23, September 14, 2012 (UTC) The title clearly says ssj2 vegeta vs ssj2 gohanK1lp1k0nna 14:42, September 14, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna Goku's help was negligible, all he did was tell Gohan to stop holding back. Blue goku is much stronger than gohan. To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. Base Freeza is stronger than base Gohan. dragonball0900 3 months ago #18. Now if Gotenks is that much stronger at SSJ 3 than when he was only SSj1, then he's much stronger than Goku. Was it because kid buu was PURE evil, when Super Buu was the type to always want to turn people into chocolate and wanting a challenge. Gohan is stronger if goku is in his normal form but if they are both in super saiyan 2 form or if Goku is in super saiyan form then goku is stronger. Mystic Gohan is stronger than base Freeza. Although, it's likely Android 17 might be stronger considering Gohan had to ask Goku to use SSJB while Goku went SSJB on his own against 17. Regardless, Gohan is far stronger than SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Goku was holding back against Broly.Rage broly never lost to ssg vegeta. Since we never saw Vegito really try all that much except for one instance when he stopped Buu from breaking the dimensional barrier, we have no gauge to use except the evidence offered by the Kais. 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